« Perezida Kagame tumufata nk’umuntu wanga igihugu cye »: John KARURANGA, Perezida wa RPP-Imvura

par Rwanda Rwiza, mercredi 7 décembre 2011, 13:43

 Twaganiriye na  John Karuranga, Perezida w’ishyaka RPP-Imvura.

 

Rwanda Rwiza: Bwana John Karuranga nifuzaga ko mwakwibwira abanyarwanda, ndetse mukababwira muri make ishyaka ryanyu RPP-Imvura. Iryo zina Imvura ryavuye hehe? Muri make mwatubwira imigambi ishyaka ryanyu?

 

John Karuranga: nitwa John Karuranga, iwacu ni Ruhango, nahunze muri 1960 ndi kumwe banjye. Twabaye i Burundi (i Buye, Mutaho), Tanzania (Nyarutiti), nyuma tugera  Masaka – Uganda 1962. Masaka niho nakuriye. Nakoze imirimo myinshi (farming – Mawogola, Lwera, Buganda hamwe na Butende – Kamuli,  Busoga) etc. Nakoze muri leta ya Perezida Idi Amini, Lule, Binaisa, Muwanga na Museveni. Nagize no kuba Publicity and Political Strategist wa UPM ya Museveni. Nashinze Rwanda National Liberation Movement muri 1986 i Kampala – Uganda. Nashakaga gutera u Rwanda. Narafashwe mfugirwa mu nkambi y’abasirikare Lubiri amezi abiri, nyuma Luzira Maximum Prison amazi 6. Nahuye na leta y’u Rwanda i Kabale – Uganda iminsi itatu (19-21 Ukwakira 1986), intumwa z’u Rwanda zari ziyobowe na Claver Kanyarushoki wari Ambassador w’u Rwanda muri Uganda, ari kumwe na  Nduwayezu Augustin wari Maneko mukuru wa Habyarimana.  Ku wa 28/12/86 nibwo banyirukanye muri Uganda banyohereza Sweden, niho mba ubu.  Maze imyaka 17 ndwanya leta ya RPF.  RPP nk’ishyaka rigizwe n’abantu benshi batuye mu Rwanda, Uganda, Tanzania, Kenya, DRC n’ahandi hose mw’isi.

Uti iryo zina Imvura ryavuye hehe?  Imvura n’uko mu Rwanda ubu haramapfa. Abantu bicwa n’inzara, abana barara ubusa, inka ntizibona aho zahuka kubera izuba. None rero abanyarwanda bakeneye imvura ngo bahinge, basarure, bishime, inka zibone ubwatsi. Niyo mpamvu twashyizeho ako kazina imvura.

RPP bisobanura Rwanda People’s Party mu cyongereza cyangwa Ishyaka ry’ Abaturage mu Kinyarwanda.

383159_149839631787811_100002853261715_176687_1937458784_aJohn Karuranga, Perezida wa RPP-Imvura

Ishyaka RPP-Imvura rigamije ibi bikurikira:

 

A democratic regime must confront and move to solve the most acute national problems and successfully live up to the great challenges which Rwanda is faced today.

The democracy on the Rwanda submitted by the RPP-IMVURA to the Rwandan people contains seven major components or goals:

    1. regime of freedom, in which the people choose their own future and a democratic, representative and modern State, based on the people’s participation.

 

  1. An economic development based on a mixed, modern and dynamic economy, serving the people and the country.
  2. A social policy to provide better living conditions for the people.
  3. A cultural policy that guarantees access to the creation and enjoyment of culture.
  4. An independent and sovereign country with a policy of peace, friendship and cooperation with all peoples. 
  5.  National reconciliation in which mature dialogue and interaction and participation that evolve both internal, external and capacity factors  and making it the only choice and the most suitable means to protecting the unity of the country and building Rwanda of the future.
  6. Justice to provide a broader, stronger climate of security as justice can be as monumental importance and integral part of protecting Rwandan as the nation move forward with their lives.

 

Rwanda Rwiza: Muri make mwatubwira uko mubona ubutegetsi buri mu Rwanda? Mubona mute President Paul Kagame?

 

John Karuranga: Mu by’ukuri nta butegetsi tugira mu Rwanda. Ahubwo dufite abantu bafashe abanyarwanda ho ingwate. Mbese abanyarwanda bafungiye mukitwa Solitary confiniment. Igihe ubutegetsi butangiye kwica abo butegeka buba bwarananiwe. Niyo mpamvu tuvuga yuko ari nta butegetsi buriho mu Rwanda.

Ku bijyanye na Perezida Kagame tumufata nk’umuntu wanga igihugu cye n’abanyarwanda. Niyo mpamvu  ubu nta munyarwanda ugira agaciro mu gihugu cye. Abanyarwanda bose bari mu bwigunge. Kuko yanganishije abanyarwanda bose, ku buryo umugabo atinya umugore we, abana bagatinya ababyeyi babo, umuganga agatinya umurwayi, umwarimu agatinya abanyeshuri, ukora taxi agatinya passagers etc. Ibyo nibyo dufite mu Rwanda na hano mu mahanga. Wabirebera no mihango yo gushyingura Intwari y’u Rwanda Charles Ingabire uko abantu bose batinyanagana.  Kubera iyo mpamvu rero dusanga ari nta mwanya afite mu Rwanda rushya.

Rwanda Rwiza: Ikibazo cy’ubutabera mukibona mute? Ahandavuga mu bice 3: • Abagize uruhare muri génocide? • Abasirikare bari aba FPR bakekwaho uruhare mu bwicanyi mu Rwanda no muri Congo?

• Abarimo gukora ibyaha ubu bijyanye no guhohotera abaturage n’abatavuga rumwe n’ubutegetsi buriho mu Rwanda. Ndetse n’ibindi byaha bijyanye no gusahura umutungo w’igihugu?

 

John Karuranga: Nkuko mbivuga iteka ryose abantu bose bagize urubahare muri genocide (ring leaders) bakwiriye guhanwa. Abandi bose bamaze imyaka 15 mu munyururu, abasaza, abarwayi  bose bakwiriye gufungurwa. Abantu kandi bafunze barenganijwe bagomba guhabwa impozamarira.

Ku bijyanye na Congo navuga ko abakuru babo basirikare bose bakwiriye kubihanirwa kuko ibyo bakoze ntabwo ari bintu twakwishimira.

Ku bijyanye n’abarimo gukora ibyaha ubu bijyanye n’ubwicanyi no kugirira nabi abatavuga rumwe n’ubutegetsi n’ubusahuzi bw’umutungo w’igihugu abo bose bakwiriye guhanwa by’intangarugero.

Rwanda Rwiza: ikibazo cy’amoko mukibona gute mu ishyaka ryanyu?  Ubwiyunge bw’abanyarwanda mubona bushobora kugerwaho? Inama mwatanga kugira ngo bugerweho ni izihe?

 

John Karuranga: Ntabwo twebwe tubona icyo kibazo nk’uko abandi bakibona. Ibyo bibazo biterwa n’abanyapolitiki babyungukamo. Kuko rero babadafite political program nziza niyo mpamvu bazanamo amoko. Ntabwo rero u Rwanda ruzagira amahoro n’umutekano rushingiye kuri politiki y’amoko. Ubwiyunge na bwo ni ikintu cyoroshye igihe amoko adakoreshejwe. Abantu bagomba kwiyunga nk’abanyarwanda si nk’amoko. Abantu rero bakwiriye gukunda igihugu cyabo kuruta amoko bakomokamo. N’abantu bakirinda ivanguramoko. Abantu bagomba kumenya y’uko u Rwanda ari igihugu cy’abanyarwanda bose. Abanyapolitiki bagomba gushyiraho amashyaka adashingiye ku moko. Amashyaka yashigikirwa n’abanyarwanda muri rusange bitavuye ku bwoko bw’abarishinze cyangwa akarere.

Rwanda Rwiza: Ishyaka ryanyu rifite iyihe migambi ku bijyanye n’ubukungu n’imibereho y’abaturage?

 

John Karuranga: Hari byinshi cyane. Icyambere ni ukwigisha abanyarwanda kwikorera. Dushaka ubukungu bushingiye kuri rubanda nyamwinshi. RPP izaca ihingwa ry’amakawa irisimbuze  iyindi myaka yakoreshwa mu Rwanda no mu mahanga etc. Mbese dushaka ko abanyarwanda bahinga imyaka bacuruzanya, iyisigaye ikaba yagurishwa mu mahanga no mu bihugu duturanye. RPP yifuza ko hakubakwa inganda mu turere twose tw’u Rwanda (small – medium sizes zikora semi-finished raw materials).  Guhagarika kubaka inganda nshya hafi y’umujyi wa Kigali. Mbese hakabaho gukwiza umutungo w’u Rwanda mu gihugu hose. Gushyigikira rubanda mu kwihangira imirimo (business). Kuzana joint ventures  and transfer ya technology mu Rwanda mu mwanya w’abashoramari (investors), aho kugira ngo abashoramari (investors) bahindure abanyarwanda ababoyi babo. Ni ukuvuga  50/50 imigabane hagati y’abanyamahanga n’abanyarwanda,  ariko abanyamahanga bazana Managing Director gusa abandi bakozi bakaba abanyarwanda. Hano n’uko abanyarwanda bigishwa uburyo bwo kwirorera ibintu bishingiye kuri technology tudafite. Abanyarwanda bagomba gukangurirwa kugura imigabane (shares) mu gihugu. Gushakira abanyarwanda isoko mu mahanga, gushyira imbaranga mu ma sosiyete y’ubucuruzi hamwe na Rwanda Development Corporation etc.  Kutemera imishinga yo haze idafitiye inyungu abanyarwanda.

Ariko ibyo kubigeraho hagomba kubaho amategeko abigenga n’arengera abanyarwanda twese kugirango twubahirize ibyo dukora.

Rwanda Rwiza: Ishyaka ryanyu rifite iyihe mugambi ku bijyanye n’urubyiruko n’uburezi (amashuri)?

 

John Karuranga: Ubumenyi – niyo majyambere kandi nibwo Rwanda rw’ejo. Tuzigisha abana b’u Rwanda bose. Tuzahagarika burusi zitangwa kujya kwiga hanze cyeretse kwiga amasomo u Rwanda rudashobora kwigisha. Ahubwo tuzazana abarimu kwigisha mu Rwanda  – retired (professors) kuko umwe abonye kontrakiti y’Umwaka ex. £25000 ashorora kwigisha abanyeshuri barenga magana atatu ku mwaka – ibyo rero biruta kuyatanga ku munyeshuri umwe gusa. Ikindi ni ugushyiraho policy igarura abanyarwanda bose bize gukorera mu Rwanda. Hamwe no kwigisha abarimu benshi mu Rwanda. Ubumenyi n’ubuvuzi nibyo bizahabwa bageti (amafaranga) nini mugihugu.

Rwanda Rwiza: Ese ishyaka ryanyu rifite imikoranire cyangwa amasezerano n’andi mashyaka arwanya ubutegetsi?   Ese Leta y’u Rwanda yemeye kugirana imishyikirano n’ishyaka ryanyu ryonyine ndetse mugahabwa imyanya mu buyobozi hadahamagawe n’andi mashyaka arwanya ubutegetsi mwabyemera?

 

John Karuranga: Tuganira n’andi mashyaka tukungurana ibitekerezo ariko nta masezerano yo gukorana dufitanye.

Ntabwo turwanira imyanya abagize rino shyaka iyo babishaka ubu baba bafite imyanya muri leta kuva 1994. Abantu bagomba kumenya y’uko bamwe mu bagize RPP bamaze imyaka 17 barwanya ubutegetsi bwa RPF. Nubwo rero RPP yatangiye muri Gicurasi (May) 2010, ariko imigambi yashingiweho n’iya kera – yateguwe na Rwanda National Liberation Movement (muri 1986). RPP rero ni ishyaka rirwanira amahoro n’umutekano w’abanyarwanda ntabwo ari imyanya muri leta.

Rwanda Rwiza: Ishyaka ryanyu ritekereza iki ku Mwami w’u Rwanda Kigeli V Ndahindurwa?

 

John Karuranga: Ndatekereza ko wishubije icyo kibazo.  Uravuze ngo ”Mwami w’u Rwanda Kigeli V Ndahindurwa”.  RPP nta kibazo biyiteye tugize Umwami w’u Rwanda, atashye nk’Umwami wacu. Erega ikibazo dufite mu Rwanda si ubwami,  ahubwo ni abantu birengiza ibyo bazi kubera inyungu zabo. Ikibazo rero n’uwazanira amahoro abanyarwanda bose. Republika byarayinaniye, niba Umwami yabigeraho nta kibazo byatwara. Nubwo kandi kutagira ubwami, tukagira perezida cyangwa Minisitiri w’intebe aribyo byazanira abanyarwanda amahoro nta kibazo. Abanyarwanda bafite inyota y’amahoro na democracy s’iyo ubategeka uko asa nuko ateye.

 

Rwanda Rwiza: Mu minsi ishize Bwana Charles Ingabire yitabye Imana arasiwe mu mujyi wa Kampala. Bivugwa ko yaba ari umuyoboke wa RPP-Imvura. Mwatubwiraho muri make? Ese case ye imeze ite igeze hehe? 

 

John Karuranga:Nibyo rwose abanzi b’u Rwanda baramwishe, ariko ubu nyuma ya Charles Ingabire havutse abandi 1000. Urugamba turiho rero ntiruzasubira inyuma kuko Charles bamwishe. Kandi kugirango tumuhorere n’uko tuzagera ku byifuzo yasigiye abanyarwanda. Ikindi RPP nk’ishyaka rirashimira abanyarwanda bose n’abanyamahanga bahagatiye umurwango wa Nyakwigendera Charles Ingabire mu bihe bikomeye barimo ubu.

Ikibazo ntabwo ari ubuyoboke bwa RPP  ahubwo nuko yari Intwari, atigeze akangwa n’ahatinyisha. Ikindi n’umunyarwanda, RPP rero nk’ishyaka ribabazwa n’umunyarwanda wese uhohotewe, uri mu byago ntabwo ari abayoboke ba RPP gusa.  Nkuko RPP ari ishyaka ry’Abaturage – risanga abanyarwanda bose ari kimwe. Nk’ishyaka ryamaganye ubugome bwagiriwe  Lt Gen Kayumba bashaka kumwica, hamwe n’ubwagiriwe ba nyakwigendera Rugambage, Kagwa n’abandi banyarwanda bose.  N’ubwo batari abayoboke ba RPP. Amahoro rero umutekano RPP irwanira ni iby’abanyarwanda bose si abayoboke bacu gusa. Rwose nk’ishyaka ubugome bwagiriwe Charles, bwaratubabaje cyane ariko ntibizadindiza urugamba turiho.

Ku bijyanye na case uho igeze, Police ya Uganda niyo ibirimo ndatekereza ko mu gihe cya vuba tuzamenya uko bimeze.

 

Rwanda Rwiza: Mu gusoza waha ubuhe butumwa abanyarwanda muri rusange n’abayoboke ba RPP-Imvura by’umwihariko?

 

John Karuranga: Nsaba abanyarwanda twese gukundana, gukunda u Rwanda, kandi no kurwitangira igihe biba ari ngombwa nka mugenzi wacu Charles Ingabire. RPP irasaba ubwiyunge n’umurava, mureke gutukana, mwirinde kubeshyera bagenzi banyu kubera inyungu zanyu bwite. Mureke abashaka kuzindukira i Rwanda cyangwa gutaha bagende. Kuko bataha batataha ntabwo bizabuza abanyarwanda kwibohoza. Dukeneye ikintu kimwe gusa, ubumwe, kumenya icyo dusha, aho gishakirwa n’uburyo tuzakigeraho. Nti mwicika intege igihe nicyo rwose, nti ibyo byose n’ibyo mubona n’ibyo mumva ni ubusa. Nti ejo bundi U Rwanda nirutabyara   Ikimasa ruzabyara Inyana. Ariko icyangombwa si icyo ruzabyara ahubwo n’uko RUZABYARA mu minsi ya vuba.

Mugire amahoro.

 

 Rwanda Rwiza

 


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